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Created 15 November 2023 13:46
Can anyone help me!
We have an apprentice who went on a break in learning on 25/05/23, she then left her original employer 07/07/23 (whilst on the break), started at the new employer on 20/07/23 and then returned from the break in learning 11/09/23. How do we record this on the ILR and agreements?
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The apprenticeship agreement has broken down so that should be recorded as a withdrawal and a new start with the new employer (with a restart indicator in the ILR) and the start date would be 11/09/2023 (or when the learning activity took place after the return from BIL date).
15 November 2023 14:21
At the most recent webinar the ESFA did on Breaks in Learning they confirmed that you'd leave the original record as it was, and process the return, just with the new employer and with residual prices (TNP3/TNP4).
15 November 2023 14:31
Interesting! Good to know. Thanks Ben. That should help immensely. Would this be applicable to any form of break because to me that's implying where we apply a BIL for change of employer, not for a BIL for say personal circumstances.
15 November 2023 14:35 (Edited)
So you wouldn't withdraw the learner, you'd just add a change to employment status as of the date the learner started at the new employer even though they are on a BIL and add TNP3/TNP4 prices?
15 November 2023 14:56
You wouldn't withdraw them, no. You'd essentially process them as a return from a break, adding a new employment status and TNP3/4 prices according to how much the new employer has to pay.
15 November 2023 15:00
So the employment status date and TNP3/TNP4 dates will be those of 20/07/23, and then process the BIL as usual with 11/09/23 dates and new TNP3/TNP4 with dates of 11/09/23?
15 November 2023 15:17
Yes. Restart (and TNP3/4 entries) as of 11/9/2023, with a new employment status entry as of 20/7/2023.
16 November 2023 11:14