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Created 22 March 2021 11:04
We are aware that all our apprentices need to be working towards level 2 FS if not exempt and we always start on this (unless BKSB shows we really need to start at level 1). We have had a few apprentices that are on a level 2 standard and are really struggling to achieve the level 2 FS, we therefore put them onto level 1 FS.
We always add the level 1 aims to the ILR and reduce the funding to 0 as we have already had funding for level 2. Is there any issue with us doing this, are we able to claim the funding for the level 1 also or are we correct in reducing this to 0?
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Apologies if I've misunderstood.
The minimum requirements for a L2 Apprenticeship is for them to pass (or already hold) L1 Functional Skills. They must then (attempt) L2.
For L3 Apprenticeships, the minimum requirement is for them to pass (or already hold) L2 Functional Skills.
If your learners don't already hold L1 exemptions then they should be enrolled on L1 and I cant understand why you would be reducing the funding. Upon completion they should then attempt the L2 exam.
22 March 2021 12:19 (Edited)
Sorry posting on an old topic, but in the above scenario - can you claim the full amount of FS funding for both L1 and L2?
If learner enrols on L1 FS - we would claim the full £471
If learner then progresses onto L2 FS - can we claim the full £471 again?
06 January 2022 11:28
I see no reason why not as its not uncommon for learners to progress from one FS to another, especially non apprentices.
The only reason you shouldn't claim funding is if you are only putting the learner in for the exam and are not teaching them anything.
06 January 2022 13:19 (Edited)
My understanding is that you can only claim the funding for a level 1 FS if the apprentice is assessed to be working below level 1. If the apprentice is assessed to be working at level 1 or above, they will only be funded for level 2 - they must still achieve level 1 but it will not be funded.
Where the apprentice holds neither level 1 nor level 2 approvedqualifications and is judged by the main provider to be workingbelow level 1 standard in English / maths:
Apprentices must study towards and achieve English and mathsqualifications of at least level 1 (Functional Skills level 1 or GCSE gradeE or 2), and start, study towards and take the assessments for level 2qualifications in these subjects. The apprentice is not required toachieve level 2 qualifications in order to successfully complete theirapprenticeship. These requirements must be fulfilled before theapprentice takes the end-point assessment.
Main providers must also ensure that any level 1 training andassessments are taken at an early enough stage in the apprenticeshipto allow sufficient time for an apprentice to study towards and take theassessments for the level 2 qualification, after a level 1 has beenachieved.
Where the apprentice does not already hold approved level 1qualifications, but is judged by the main provider to be working atlevel 1 standard in English / maths:
Apprentices must start, continue to study and take the assessment forlevel 2 English and maths (Functional Skills level 2 or GCSE). If they donot achieve a level 2, you must then ensure they take the assessmentfor level 1 English and / or maths – this is because they must secure thelevel 1 qualification in order to complete their apprenticeship.
You must ensure that any level 2 training and assessments are taken atan early enough stage in the apprenticeship to allow time for theapprentice to take the level 1 assessment if they first do not achieve thelevel 2. In this scenario we will not fund costs for level 1 training andassessment. These requirements must be fulfilled before the apprenticetakes the end-point assessment.
06 January 2022 14:13
true but if there was an example of them needing to do both (for l2 standards as an example) and where this is backed up by a IA then you should be able to claim both
06 January 2022 14:15
Yes if they are below L1 at IA then should be able to claim for L1 and then L2
06 January 2022 14:17
Thank you both that is really helpful.
06 January 2022 19:07