Chloe

Functional Skills

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We are aware that all our apprentices need to be working towards level 2 FS if not exempt and we always start on this (unless BKSB shows we really need to start at level 1). We have had a few apprentices that are on a level 2 standard and are really struggling to achieve the level 2 FS, we therefore put them onto level 1 FS. 

We always add the level 1 aims to the ILR and reduce the funding to 0 as we have already had funding for level 2. Is there any issue with us doing this, are we able to claim the funding for the level 1 also or are we correct in reducing this to 0?

Thank you

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Kelly Knights

Apologies if I've misunderstood.

The minimum requirements for a L2 Apprenticeship is for them to pass (or already hold) L1 Functional Skills. They must then (attempt) L2.

For L3 Apprenticeships, the minimum requirement is for them to pass (or already hold) L2 Functional Skills.

If your learners don't already hold L1 exemptions then they should be enrolled on L1 and I cant understand why you would be reducing the funding. Upon completion they should then attempt the L2 exam.  

 

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Linnea Clarke

Hello Kelly

Sorry posting on an old topic, but in the above scenario - can you claim the full amount of FS funding for both L1 and L2? 

If learner enrols on L1 FS - we would claim the full £471

If learner then progresses onto L2 FS - can we claim the full £471 again? 

Kelly Knights

I see no reason why not as its not uncommon for learners to progress from one FS to another, especially non apprentices.

The only reason you shouldn't claim funding is if you are only putting the learner in for the exam and are not teaching them anything.

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Chloe

Hi,

My understanding is that you can only claim the funding for a level 1 FS if the apprentice is assessed to be working below level 1. If the apprentice is assessed to be working at level 1 or above, they will only be funded for level 2 - they must still achieve level 1 but it will not be funded.

Where the apprentice holds neither level 1 nor level 2 approved
qualifications and is judged by the main provider to be working
below level 1 standard in English / maths:

Apprentices must study towards and achieve English and maths
qualifications of at least level 1 (Functional Skills level 1 or GCSE grade
E or 2), and start, study towards and take the assessments for level 2
qualifications in these subjects. The apprentice is not required to
achieve level 2 qualifications in order to successfully complete their
apprenticeship. These requirements must be fulfilled before the
apprentice takes the end-point assessment.

Main providers must also ensure that any level 1 training and
assessments are taken at an early enough stage in the apprenticeship
to allow sufficient time for an apprentice to study towards and take the
assessments for the level 2 qualification, after a level 1 has been
achieved.

Where the apprentice does not already hold approved level 1
qualifications, but is judged by the main provider to be working at
level 1 standard in English / maths:

Apprentices must start, continue to study and take the assessment for
level 2 English and maths (Functional Skills level 2 or GCSE). If they do
not achieve a level 2, you must then ensure they take the assessment
for level 1 English and / or maths – this is because they must secure the
level 1 qualification in order to complete their apprenticeship.

You must ensure that any level 2 training and assessments are taken at
an early enough stage in the apprenticeship to allow time for the
apprentice to take the level 1 assessment if they first do not achieve the
level 2. In this scenario we will not fund costs for level 1 training and
assessment. These requirements must be fulfilled before the apprentice
takes the end-point assessment.

Kelly Knights

true but if there was an example of them needing to do both (for l2 standards as an example) and where this is backed up by a IA then you should be able to claim both

Chloe

Yes if they are below L1 at IA then should be able to claim for L1 and then L2

Linnea Clarke

Thank you both that is really helpful.