Martina Curran

Change of employer for learner on old Senior Leader Standard

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A leaner started in 2020 on the Senior Leader Master's Degree Apprenticeship, Level 7 (Standard) on the maximum funding of £18,000.  They have changed employers to a new levy paying employer in April 2021.  I tried to change the employer using the option on the learner record but am unable to enter the residual cost for the new employer as it's more than £14,000 (the maximum for the NEW L7 standard).  I understood that learners on the OLD standard would be able to continue their apprenticeship on that standard at the original cost.  Has anyone else encountered this issue?   Is there any documentation about it as I can't find anything. Thanks.

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Martin West

Where are you unable to enter the residual cost the ILR or on DAS?

Martina Curran

Hi Martin

I can't update the details in the DAS.  I get an error message stating the cost is above the 14K of the NEW standard despite the learner continuing on the OLD standard. 

Martin West

Did you follow the guidance here: Record a change of employer – Apprenticeship Service Support (education.gov.uk)

Martina Curran

Yes I've done that.  The wording says "The training provider will declare the month in which the apprentice moved to the new employer, the new training planned end month and the remaining costs of training and assessment."  However, the issue is that the remaining costs of the training and assessment are more than 14K which is the maximum for the standard and that's what's generating the error message.   

 

Martin West

The Cap that when the Apprentice first started would apply, I think this is only a warning message.

Martina Curran

It doesn't read like a warning and it if the remainder of the cost is NOT going to be funded from the employer account, how does the provider get these funds.  The actual wording seems clear. 

This apprenticeship is above the funding band maximum

The new agreed apprenticeship price is above the £14,000 maximum value of the funding band for this apprenticeship. You'll need to ask the new employer to pay the difference directly to you - this can't be funded from their account.

Martin West

I suspect DAS has not accounted for a change in the CAP and is indicating the current CAP price (£14,000) and not the CAP that applied when the Apprentice started (£18,000), you could confirm this with the AS.

Martina Curran

I've raised a case about this.  Would be interesting to see if other providers have come up against the same issue too.