Melanie Aspinall

Apprenticeship Funding Rules 21/22

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Just putting a wildly hopeful post out here in the chance that someone from the ESFA may read it. Any chance of having the 21/22 funding rules in the next month, just so we can get our processes and paperwork ready prior to the start of the the new funding year rather than running around like headless chickens trying to resolve it when the new funding year commences? It becomes rather frustrating otherwise.

TIA,

Mel

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Sue Bishop

Ha!  Like they actually care.......

Steveh

+1, but I'm not holding my breath.

Have a feeling it's eligibility for EU learners that's causing the hold ups, not expecting much else to change (famous last words)?

Melanie Aspinall

Steveh That's my concern - the eligibility for EU learners changes. We need to know so we can communicate not just to our staff but to our clients as well. The impact could be significant for our clients that want to take on apprentices as we do under the current funding rules. Don't want to recreate the nativity scene - "sorry, no room at the inn, you can't come in"...We need to educate all our clients and staff as soon as possible :(

Steveh

I'd imagine it's all tied to pre-settled/settled status for those who were here before 1 Jan 21 and what to do with learners who *don't* have it (not least because it looks like the registration process is struggling to cope) because it's not like they're "illegal" or lose the right to work without it, as far as I can tell, so I suspect it's HO saying "you shouldn't fund them" and DfE saying "why not?"

Melanie Aspinall

Steveh I hope they resolve it soon as we are fast approaching the finishing line for 20/21! I remain ever hopeful that we will get them at the very latest, first week of July (and that's late enough as it is!)

Matt Wood

I asked someone from the ESFA during the conference and they said hopefully by the end of June. Anyone want to take bets?

Melanie Aspinall

Matt Wood that sounds promising but I wouldn't bet my mortgage on it!

Matt Wood

v1 of AEB rules just came out today. If you're interested in residency they might be worth a look to see what they're thinking before app rules are published. 

Melanie Aspinall

Matt Wood thanks for the heads up - was unaware of those being released today

Steveh

Unsurprisingly, it's "no pre-settled/settled status, no funding" as a line in the sand. Would expect to see the same in the App Rules...

Melanie Aspinall

Matt Wood do you have the link to the 21/22 AEB rules please? I can't find them.

Melanie Aspinall

Does anyone know when the webinar that the ESFA held last week on the funding rules will be uploaded to their YouTube site? I swear they said it would be by the end of last week...

Matt Wood

It's not like the ESFA to miss a deadline!

But yes, I'm still waiting too after missing half of it live. They definitely said they'd send out a recording...

Helen Cuthbert

they said by end of this week but don't hold breathe sounded like they were still reviewing all sorts.... if we get them by 6th Aug i'll be amazed :(

Kuldip (ESFA)

Hi all, the Apprenticeship Engagement Service says:

The on-demand recording is currently available through our webinar channel until 19th August, please click on our webinar registration page link and then find the recorded webinar, click into it and register to watch it.

The permanent home for the recording will be on the YouTube channel in about 3 weeks' time.

Hope that helps

Kuldip

Melanie Aspinall

Thanks Kuldip. Got it now.