Philip Dawe

Kickstart and AEB funding

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Are any other providers involved in the delivery of training related to the government's kickstart Scheme either as an employer or as a training provider engaged by an employer? 

If so are you delivering English and Maths or just employability type provision? and are you making any AEB claim for all or part of this provision?

We have been advised by the local DWP representative that we can use AEB funding for Kick starters but I am concerned that this may be seen as double funding and contrary to  both the Kickstart T and Cs and our AEB funding grant.

Any help or comment greatly received.

Phil

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Martin West

Kickstart and the AEB are completely different and separate, the DWP are correct in that the AEB can be used for those on Kickstart where the learner is eligible under the AEB rules.

Why are you concerned it would be double funding? And what specifically in the funding requirements for each indicates that this may be the case?

Philip Dawe

Martin West thank you for your response it has really got me thinking.

The area that most  concerned me was: 

From: Kickstart Scheme Grant Funding Agreement: terms and conditions for employers – effective from 21 June 2021 - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

Para 5.5:

5.5. If the Grant Recipient is party to any contract for goods, works or services or any funding agreement (other than this Grant Agreement) with any Crown Body, whether national, local or devolved, the Grant Recipient must not use Kickstart Scheme Grant payments to replace or duplicate the funding provided by that Crown Body for the purpose of that contract or funding agreement.

And that it could be construed that we are using the Kickstart Scheme grant to pay learners to attend AEB provision.

Am I over thinking this? what are your thoughts?

Phil 

Martin West

I think you are over thinking this as you will not be using AEB funding for the same purpose as Kickstart is funding to the employer to enable wages to be paid whereas AEB is funding to provide training.

Philip Dawe

Thank you Martin West great advice as always :-)

Phil

Clare Hancock

Good Morning.  Can anyone advise what funding do we enter for these Kickstart learners?  Will it be FM35 (AEB) with fully funded benefits (Universal Credit)?  Do we need to enter a LDM code?  Thanks 

Martin West

Kickstart is an employment scheme and does not include any significant classroom or online training.

As such there is no associated LDM code.

There is no provision specifically for Kickstart and any provision would be treated the normal way under AEB eligibility rules.

Clare Hancock

Thats great, thanks for confirmation