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Created 15 September 2021 16:24
Hi all, the first time I've come across this so far and I've tied myself in knots!! a non levy employer who is receiving funds from the levy employer, I get that they would still be under the ACT1 however do they get allocated still as a non levy (ACT1N) or ACT1L?
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Morning, they no longer get allocated as Non-Levy or Levy, as ACT 1 just signals that they are through the Apprenticeship service account :) that's my understanding anyway - Thanks
16 September 2021 07:26
The truth is I don’t know as transfers of levy funding are not indicated in any of the provider reports.
What is ACTN and ACTL?
16 September 2021 08:48
PICS uses ACT1L and ACT1N as internal identifiers to differentiate between Levy and Non-levy, however they are both exported as ACT1. The determination of which contract they fall under is based on their DAS account. Non-levy employers with levy transfer still fall under the Non levy contact, but the funding falls under the Levy funding column in the Apps monthly payment report, not the co-investment column.
We record these learners in PICS as ACT1L.
16 September 2021 09:11
Ohhh it’s a PIC’s thing but do you know if the funding line in the reports change when a non-levy employer on DAS if funded by a transfer from a levy employer.
16 September 2021 09:25
Martin, there is no change to the funding line, Apps monthly payment report extract for a standard non levy learner and a non-levy Levy transfer learner
16 September 2021 09:35
Martin, that’s that helps identify those funded thought a transfer, what’s your thoughts on the last one could it be non-levy becoming a levy payer but with insufficient funds to cover payment?
16 September 2021 10:23
Martin, I have no experience of employers switching from Levy to non-levy or vice versa, so I would have to guess at what the data is showing. The details are pretty much the same as what I see when one of our levy employers runs out of funds, and needs to be invoiced each month for the co-investment contribution. It is definitely showing a shortfall of levy funds dropping in to co-investment, but on a non-levy DAS funding line, so I would expect that there are two possible options, a non-levy becoming a levy payer after the learner has signed up, and not having sufficient funds, having just tipped in to levy, as you suggested. Alternatively it could be non-levy with insufficient Levy transfer to cover the programme, but I think that this would be highly unlikely, if not impossible, as I would expect the transfer to be sufficient to cover the programme. Therefore, I think that your suggestion is the correct one.
16 September 2021 11:33