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Created 26 September 2022 10:41
Query probably mainly for specialist colleges - the FE workforce collection return, how are you deciding who is in scope - are you including therapists?
Separate question, I can't see the tiles to submit, but I have got the permissions in IDAMS. Is it just me or is no one seeing it despite the window being open?
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Hi David Dalby,
Organisations should complete a return for staff members that have one or more contracts of employment the provider during the 2021/2022 academic year (1 August 2021 to 31 July 2022).
Staff role job titles or the job position name vary between providers. The job roles listed in the Staff Collection Support Manual are the full set of roles that are available to be used for the collection. Where providers job roles do not match these exactly then the closest available to the actual provider job role should be used.
Data must be collected for all staff that contribute to the delivery of ESFA funded further education or training provision. This includes staff members that spend any of their time working on ESFA funded training regardless of their main job role.
You do not need complete a staff record for an individual for the following types of staff:
You do not need to complete a staff record for an individual in a support role that is not directly supporting learning, e.g. catering, maintenance or other such service support roles.
FE Workforce Data Specification Document (publishing.service.gov.uk) - Scope Page.5
27 September 2022 11:30
Having the same issue as you David Dalby I cant add anymore permissions in my IDAMS account.
The 3rd tile doesn't show in submit learner data so I cant send my xml file. Henry Wish can you please advise? I will be just be sending it on a ticket to the support team at this rate.
11 October 2022 14:43
Chris Roberts, I've checked and you are not in scope for either FE workforce/Governor data returns.
17 October 2022 09:51
Dear David Dalby,
I've checked and you are within scope for the FE Workforce Governor Data collection.
17 October 2022 09:55
Hi Henry Wish Can I ask how you have checked? We are a 16-19 ITP. The guidance states;
Providers should complete a return if they receive funding through one or more of the following funding models and do not return the Schools Workforce census or the HESA staff record.• 16-19 (excluding Apprenticeships)• Adult skills• Apprenticeships (from 1 May 2017) including Levy funding• Community Learning• European Social Funding (ESF)• Other Adult• Other 16-19This will include:• FE Colleges• Sixth Form Colleges• Local Authorities• Independent Training Providers• Employer Providers• Third Sector and Voluntary organisations.The following providers are not in scope for the collection:• Schools and Academies who return the Schools Workforce Census • HE institutions who return the HESA staff record • Organisations not in receipt of ESFA funding
17 October 2022 09:59
Hi Chris Roberts,
Please accept my apology!
I've double checked your account information (UKPRN) and you are within scope for the FE Workforce Data Collection.
17 October 2022 10:13
Thanks Henry Wish we have submitted ours last week.
17 October 2022 10:40
How do we submit our data collection once everything has been completed? I can't see a submit button, just a "return to dashboard", or "add another staff member" button.
Or do we just leave it until the return deadline passes and it submits itself?
01 November 2022 09:55
Hi Craig Humphreys yes that is correct, there is no submit button currently for the staff online form. The collection will pick up all your staff members after the close date that are in a completed state.
02 November 2022 08:49