Ian Barrett commented, 20 May 2022 08:01

It does seem ridiculous that we're supposed to accept self-declarations (and employers must have to do their own checks on Right to Work as Steveh says) yet we've had two auditors recently say that we must do ID checks on all learners regardless.  Is everyone asking to see ID for all learners?  We had assumed that the checks were only necessary for learners who didn't meet the UK national/3 years residency.  P368.2 is ambiguous I think: 'Confirmation that you have seen the learner’s identity documents or immigration permission to verify their residency eligibility in line with Annex A. Confirmation that you are satisfied the learner is eligible for funding and (where necessary) where a learner’s permission to stay has expired you must hold evidence that an application to remain has been made'

1. Apprenticeship ID

It does seem ridiculous that we're supposed to accept self-declarations (and employers must have to do their own checks on Right to Work as Steveh says) yet we've had two auditors recently say that...

Ian Barrett commented, 11 May 2022 15:23

Steveh this is great if true though we have been advised differently in the past regarding keeping the funding drawn down and so repay the funding currently. Would it make a difference if the learner has indicated they have passed the required level even if they haven't provided the exemption evidence?  We have been told we can't claim funding for such learners and so are effectively delivering training and/or putting learners through exams for free in order to gain the evidence.

1. Functional Skills exemption

Steveh this is great if true though we have been advised differently in the past regarding keeping the funding drawn down and so repay the funding currently. Would it make a difference if the learn...

Ian Barrett commented, 08 April 2022 14:12

My view is that more specifics are not essential and there's nothing in the guidance to indicate this is needed.  We're in danger of adding bureaucracy here (and the guidance does refer to avoiding describing too much detail in case it becomes too bureaucratic) purely for the benefit of the auditors and at the expense of the learner experience.

1. OTJ examples

My view is that more specifics are not essential and there's nothing in the guidance to indicate this is needed.  We're in danger of adding bureaucracy here (and the guidance does refer to avoiding...