Martin West

Consultant and Software Supplier (open source) for over 15 years, previously15 years experience as a Training Provider Email: md.west60@googlemail.com

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Martin West commented,

New rules would only apply to starts relating to the funding year, but Clarifications can apply to starts in previous years. What is the issue with LSF changes between 20/21 and 21/22?

New rules would only apply to starts relating to the funding year, but Clarifications can apply to starts in previous years. What is the issue with LSF changes between 20/21 and 21/22?

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I do not think the use of a transfer is appropriate in this case, it should have been a withdrawal and then restart as the Learner did not transfer to a new learning aim with the same provider.

I do not think the use of a transfer is appropriate in this case, it should have been a withdrawal and then restart as the Learner did not transfer to a new learning aim with the same provider.

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Martin West commented,

This is covered in the guidance: Actions to take when there is a change to the working hours of the apprentice during the programme (e.g. an increase or a decrease to original working hours) P295 If there is a change of circumstance during the programme, in relation to the working hours of the apprentice, you must discuss and agree, with the employer and apprentice, if this change has a material impact on the current training plan. P296 You must document this discussion, which must include: P296.1 Whether the apprentice can continue to study for the same volume of off-the-job training hours per week. P296.2 Whether off-the-job training can still be delivered within the new working hours of the apprentice; P296.3 Whether the ability of the apprentice to undertake end-point assessment is impacted; and P296.4 Whether the programme is being changed as a result of this discussion.   P297 Where all parties agree that there is no material impact on the current training plan, the main provider: P297.1 Must not amend the apprenticeship documentation (apprenticeship agreement, training plan, contract for services) or the ILR   P298 Where all parties agree that there is a material impact on the current training plan, the main provider: P298.1 Must agree with the employer and apprentice how the change impacts on the duration. P298.1.1 If moving from full-time to part-time, please see paragraph P33.2. P298.1.2 If moving from part-time to full-time, the programme must still meet the minimum duration and off-the-job training requirements.   P298.2 Must work with the employer to extend the apprenticeship agreement. P298.3 Must amend the apprenticeship documentation (training plan, contract for services) to outline the new expected end date. P298.3.1 The off-the-job training hours that were agreed at the beginning of the programme do not change (unless, as part of the discussion, it is also agreed that additional training is appropriate because of the change of circumstance).   P298.4 Must not amend the ILR (the planned learning end date on the ILR does not change once it is submitted (with the exception of a data input error at the beginning of the programme)). P298.4.1 Note that there are no changes required to the apprenticeship service

This is covered in the guidance: Actions to take when there is a change to the working hours of the apprentice during the programme (e.g. an increase or a decrease to original working hours) P295 ...

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Martin West commented,

That’s not the case as these learners will be recorded in the QAR when the EPA is completed and that will be against the hybrid end year 22/23. HTH

That’s not the case as these learners will be recorded in the QAR when the EPA is completed and that will be against the hybrid end year 22/23. HTH

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Martin West commented,

The ILR Privacy Notice 2022 to 2023 version 1 January 2022 points to DFE one so this is all you need. https://guidance.submit-learner-data.service.gov.uk/22-23/ilr/ilrprivacynotice HTH

The ILR Privacy Notice 2022 to 2023 version 1 January 2022 points to DFE one so this is all you need. https://guidance.submit-learner-data.service.gov.uk/22-23/ilr/ilrprivacynotice HTH

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Martin West commented,

No the HE record as recorded on the ILR for aims that are level 4 and above.

No the HE record as recorded on the ILR for aims that are level 4 and above.