Philip Dawe
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Philip Dawe commented,
Martin West as ever you are spot on. Steveh In my defence it was MS edge that corrected my spelling - which just means I should proof read better :-) Molly Ellison I've just done a quick test on submit learner data and as Martin says, it is looking for the earliest start date in the ILR. What I did see though that might help you pin point your issue is that in the detailed Rule Violation Report that SLD creates for you, column F has all the Field values that it is using to do the check. In your report what value does it have for 'LearnStartDate' and does that date match your expectation? HTH Phil
Martin West as ever you are spot on. Steveh In my defence it was MS edge that corrected my spelling - which just means I should proof read better :-) Molly Ellison I've just done a quick test on s...
Philip Dawe commented,
Steveh please excuse my pedantry :-) ....but.... the rule says that "a PA record must exist that matches the earliest start date." It doesn't say whether that start date is the earliest in the Academic year/ILR return or the earliest the learning agreement/period of learning. Just a thought. Phil
Steveh please excuse my pedantry :-) ....but.... the rule says that "a PA record must exist that matches the earliest start date." It doesn't say whether that start date is the earliest in the Acad...
Philip Dawe commented,
Hi Molly Ellison, I think that the ESFA help desk and the ILR team are at odds here. The ILR guidance says that a prior attainment record must be added at the start of for each learning agreement - no mention of Academic year: from - ILR Specification: Entity: Prior Attainment (submit-learner-data.service.gov.uk) Notes This entity is completed when the learning agreement has been agreed between the learner and provider. The prior attainment relevant to the agreement is recorded on the ILR with the start date matching the earliest learning aim start date for the agreement. Where all learning activities relating to the agreement have been completed and if the learner progresses into further learning with the same provider, a new learning agreement is made and a new prior attainment to reflect that learning agreement is recorded. ... Do the learners in question have other aims in your ILR that overlap the new aims? if not SLD may be seeing it as a new learning agreement and as such is raising an error as there is no new Prior attainment record. HTH Phil
Hi Molly Ellison, I think that the ESFA help desk and the ILR team are at odds here. The ILR guidance says that a prior attainment record must be added at the start of for each learning agreement -...
Philip Dawe commented,
Hi Laura Giles, From the Provider support manual: Provider support manual: Recording breaks in learning, transfers and restarts (submit-learner-data.service.gov.uk) If the learning aim that the learner was following is no longer available when they return (in other words, the certification date has passed), then you cannot class this as a break in learning. This limits the length of time that a learner can have as a break in learning. Unfortunately I think that this means you will lose both funding and success rate credit. HTH, Phil
Hi Laura Giles, From the Provider support manual: Provider support manual: Recording breaks in learning, transfers and restarts (submit-learner-data.service.gov.uk) If the learning aim that the le...
Philip Dawe commented,
Hi Adam Kolaszynski, You can submit as many ILRs as you need to on SLD until the period close. You just need to be careful when uploading more than once as the last one that you submit will be the one they use :-) HTH, Phil
Hi Adam Kolaszynski, You can submit as many ILRs as you need to on SLD until the period close. You just need to be careful when uploading more than once as the last one that you submit will be the ...
Philip Dawe commented,
Hi Samantha Barker, If you are looking for apprenticeship remittances then you would need to go to the Payment history tile and trawl through the monthly payment statements :-( If you cannot see this tile on the 'Manage your Education and skills funding' account you will need to add the 'Payment Viewer' Role in IDAMS - Or get a superuser to add it for you. HTH Phil [image]
Hi Samantha Barker, If you are looking for apprenticeship remittances then you would need to go to the Payment history tile and trawl through the monthly payment statements :-( If you cannot see th...
Philip Dawe commented,
Hi Samantha Barker, Manage your education and skills funding: https://skillsfunding.service.gov.uk/ under the funding claims tile you can filter the claim types for Final reconciliation statements. I can see back to 2015/16 on ours. HTH Phil
Hi Samantha Barker, Manage your education and skills funding: https://skillsfunding.service.gov.uk/ under the funding claims tile you can filter the claim types for Final reconciliation statements....
Philip Dawe commented,
Hi David Hughes, I don't have a lot of experience of using Non-regulated aims in the context of apprenticeships but I would expect that you would have to use Aim type 3 as Aim Type 1 is normally the programme aim and would be ZPROG001. Looking at the Aim you have chosen on 'find a learning aim' it is not listed as fundable for Apprenticeships. HTH, Phil
Hi David Hughes, I don't have a lot of experience of using Non-regulated aims in the context of apprenticeships but I would expect that you would have to use Aim type 3 as Aim Type 1 is normally th...
Philip Dawe commented,
Hi Neil Norris, Yep you have it spot on. From ILR PSM: https://guidance.submit-learner-data.service.gov.uk/psm/article/apprenticeship-recording-changes If an apprentice does not return from an agreed break in learning, then the learning aims must be updated to indicate that the apprentice has withdrawn. Refer to guidance for recording learner absence or withdrawal. Phil
Hi Neil Norris, Yep you have it spot on. From ILR PSM: https://guidance.submit-learner-data.service.gov.uk/psm/article/apprenticeship-recording-changes If an apprentice does not return from an agr...
Philip Dawe commented,
If you withdrew the learner in 20/21 then you will not be able to re-start them - Unless you recorded the withdrawal as a break in learning. You may still be able to put them through the EPA but you would have to contact your EPO to confirm if they will be able to claim the Apprenticeship cert without an open record in the DAS. Also, you say that you have withdrawn them, so I assume you did not receive the completion element in June? This might affect how you finance the EPA. HTH Phil
If you withdrew the learner in 20/21 then you will not be able to re-start them - Unless you recorded the withdrawal as a break in learning. You may still be able to put them through the EPA but yo...